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Requests for project input

Proposed deletion of Marlin-class submarine

The article Marlin-class submarine has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Could not find reliable sources to establish notability.

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If there are reliable sources about this submarine design, some data could be upmerged to the the designer article, DCNS. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 1st Airborne Division (United Kingdom)

1st Airborne Division (United Kingdom) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 00:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Spanish Christian–Muslim War of 1172–1212#Requested move 9 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Spanish Christian–Muslim War of 1172–1212#Requested move 9 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --RobertJohnson35 (talk) 16:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan attack#Requested move 1 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tel al-Sultan attack#Requested move 1 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Abo Yemen✉ 17:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Bertrand_Clauzel

Sorry I am new to wiki so apologises if this is the wrong place to ask, I requested peer review following some changes I made to the linked article. LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 18:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Houthi movement#Requested move 12 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Houthi movement#Requested move 12 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Abo Yemen✉ 18:56, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion on the infobox result and territorial changes of the Granada War

There is an ongoing discussion on Talk:Granada War about the result and territorial changes on the infobox of the article. Feel free to participate. --RobertJohnson35 (talk) 16:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Operation Barbarossa § Proposed lead improvements

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Operation Barbarossa § Proposed lead improvements, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. — Goszei (talk) 07:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Chyah airstrike#Requested move 6 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Chyah airstrike#Requested move 6 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 15:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Behind Enemy Lines (1986 film)#Requested move 19 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Behind Enemy Lines (1986 film)#Requested move 19 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 19:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Pacific War § Proposed lead improvements

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Pacific War § Proposed lead improvements, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. — Goszei (talk) 23:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Comments

There are comments at Talk:Al-Faddayn that might be of interest to editors here. -- Otr500 (talk) 11:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Comments on Notes section

There are comments at Talk:Fourth Fitna, that may be of interest to editors, especially any on the Middle East, Medieval, or Early Muslim task forces. -- Otr500 (talk) 12:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Colt's Manufacturing Company#Requested move 13 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Colt's Manufacturing Company#Requested move 13 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1947–1949 Palestine war#Requested move 15 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1947–1949 Palestine war#Requested move 15 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 19:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 8th Military Police Brigade (United States)

8th Military Police Brigade (United States) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:36, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Projekt TYTAN

The article Projekt TYTAN has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced and unimproved almost 15 years. No reliable sources online Google. Not enough information to merge.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bearian (talk) 02:24, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Ecgberht, King of Wessex#Requested move 28 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ecgberht, King of Wessex#Requested move 28 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 03:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Russian invasion of Ukraine has an RfC

Russian invasion of Ukraine has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. FOARP (talk) 17:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Supermarine Spitfire

Supermarine Spitfire has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2025 Potomac River mid-air collision#Requested move 30 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2025 Potomac River mid-air collision#Requested move 30 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Trebizond#Requested move 17 January 2025

An editor has requested that Trebizond be moved to Trebizond (disambiguation), which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. TiggerJay (talk) 05:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Edwin Donayre

Edwin Donayre has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Talk:KN-02 Toksa#Requested move 5 January 2025

An editor has requested that KN-02 Toksa be moved to Hwasong-11, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. TCU9999 (talk) 11:21, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Article bounty: Badush prison massacre

Hello,

WikiProject Human rights is posting its first article bounty! Using article bounties, we aim to improve vital articles about human rights. Currently, there are 2 top-importance and 49 high-importance human rights articles that are rated as stubs. Among them is the article Badush prison massacre, which is the subject of this bounty. You are receiving this message because this WikiProject is listed on that article's page. Editors who improve this article may be eligible for various rewards, or "bounties".

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Requested move at Talk:Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh#Requested move 18 December 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh#Requested move 18 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TiggerJay (talk) 22:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Tahmasp's campaign of 1731#Requested move 28 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tahmasp's campaign of 1731#Requested move 28 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TiggerJay (talk) 16:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

List of your articles that are in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors, 2025

Currently, this project has about ~673 257 articles in need of some reference clean-up. Basically, some short references created via {{sfn}} and {{harvnb}} and similar templates have missing full citations or have some other problems. This is usually caused by templates misuse or by copy-pasting a short reference from another article without adding the full reference, or because a full reference is not making use of citation templates like {{cite book}} (see Help:CS1) or {{citation}} (see Help:CS2). To easily see which citation is in need of clean-up, you can check these instructions to enable error messages (Svick's script is the simplest to use, but Trappist the monk's script is a bit more refined if you're interested in doing deeper clean-up). See also how to resolve issues.

These could use some of your attention

To do

1. Armenian–Azerbaijani war (1918–1920)
2. Battle of Shumshu
3. Battle of the Soyang River
4. Benjamin Netanyahu
5. Equites
6. Ii Naomasa
7. Israeli war crimes in the Gaza war
8. Maki Mirage
9. Military history of the Jin dynasty and the Sixteen Kingdoms
10. Military history of the Tang dynasty
11. Military of Champa
12. Military of the Bruneian Sultanate
13. Military of the Han dynasty
14. Military of the Jin dynasty (1115–1234)
15. Military of the Mongol Empire
16. Military of the Warring States
17. Mizo National Front uprising
18. Mohammed Yakub
19. Monarchy of Canada and the Canadian Armed Forces
20. Monastir offensive
21. Mongol invasions of Korea
22. Mongol invasions of Vietnam
23. Montevideo Naval Division
24. Moravia–Ostrava offensive
25. Morean War
26. Mountain Meadows Massacre
27. Moyuru ōzora
28. Mullivaikkal Hospital bombings
29. Muscovite War of Succession
30. Mōri Terumoto
31. Nabatieh Fawka attack
32. Nader Shah
33. Nagorno-Karabakh conflict
34. Nair Brigade
35. Nakajima Homare
36. Nakajima Sakae
37. Nakazawa Koto
38. Nakba
39. Narmer
40. National Defence Commission
41. National Victory Celebration
42. National technical means of verification
43. Naval history of China
44. Naval history of Vietnam
45. Ngāti Maru–Ngati Tūwharetoa War
46. Nicolás de Ovando
47. Nikolaus Ritter
48. Ninja
49. Noel Malcolm
50. Norman Porteous
51. Northern Alliance
52. Northwest Indian War
53. Novi Sad raid
54. Nuremberg Diary
55. Odjak of Algiers
56. Oleg I of Chernigov
57. Olímpio Mourão Filho
58. Omakaitse
59. Operation Bajrang
60. Operation Kalbajar
61. Operation Krivaja '95
62. Operation Long Jump
63. Operation Pawan
64. Operation Spring Awakening
65. Opposition to United States involvement in the Vietnam War
66. Oprichnina
67. Opsikion
68. Order of National Security Merit
69. Organization of Yugoslav Nationalists
70. Origins of the Eighty Years' War
71. Ottoman Interregnum
72. Ottoman–Venetian War (1499–1503)
73. Outline of George Washington
74. Pacification of Samar
75. Pandyan Civil War (1169–1177)
76. Paraguayan War
77. Parakramabahu I
78. Passage of Humaitá
79. Pasto Campaign
80. Paul von Rennenkampf
81. Paulus Mopeli Mokhachane
82. Pedro Silva Gil
83. Peking Field Force
84. People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan
85. People's Liberation Army Air Force Airborne Corps
86. People's Liberation Army Air Force
87. People's Volunteer Army
88. Perley P. Pitkin
89. Perpetrator trauma
90. Peruvian Civil War of 1894–1895
91. Peruvian resistance movement in the War of the Pacific
92. Petar Pešić
93. Peter II of Yugoslavia
94. Phan Xuân Nhuận
95. Philippine Department
96. Philippine–American War
97. Pierre, Duke of Penthièvre
98. Polish–Lithuanian relations during World War II
99. Polish–Teutonic Wars
100. Polish–Ukrainian conflict (1939–1947)
101. Political violence in Turkey (1976–1980)
102. Poljanak and Vukovići massacres
103. Pontic Greek genocide
104. Portuguese Army
105. Portuguese invasion of the Banda Oriental (1811–1812)
106. Posadas Hospital Trial
107. Prelude to the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)
108. Presidency of Charles de Gaulle
109. Prewar period (Kosovo)
110. Prince Władysław's March on Moscow
111. Progonos Sgouros
112. Prytanée national militaire
113. Rashidun Caliphate
114. Reconstruction era
115. Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan
116. Ridda Wars
117. SU-152G
118. Sakakibara Yasumasa
119. Samad bey Mehmandarov
120. Sandile kaNgqika
121. Sardar Chuhar Singh
122. Sardarilal Mathradas Nanda
123. Sena revolution of Bengal
124. Shapur II's Arab campaign
125. Shuliang He
126. Siege of Bijapur
127. Siege of Coron (1685)
128. Siege of Dorpat (1558)
129. Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE)
130. Siege of Jülich (1621–1622)
131. Siege of Kut
132. Siege of Lazarevsky
133. Siege of Mouzon
134. Siege of Namur (1695)
135. Siege of Nicaea (1328–1331)
136. Siege of Osaka
137. Siege of Paris (1435–1436)
138. Siege of Riga (1621)
139. Siege of Sirhind
140. Siege of Songping
141. Siege of Taormina (962)
142. Siege of Uruguaiana
143. Siege of Varva (1658)
144. Sierra Leone Civil War
145. Sino-Dutch conflicts
146. Sisak People's Liberation Partisan Detachment
147. Six-Day War
148. Sixteenth Army (Japan)
149. Skanderbeg
150. Skarphéðinn Njálsson
151. Skirmishes around Vincennes (1786)
152. Slave rebellion
153. Slavic migrations to the Balkans
154. Slovak National Uprising
155. Slovak Republic (1939–1945)
156. Sogdia
157. Sohrab Khan Gorji (Iranian treasurer)
158. Soldaderas
159. Somali Armed Forces
160. Somali National Army
161. Somaliland War of Independence
162. Somali–Portuguese conflicts
163. South Sudanese Civil War
164. Southeast Asia Treaty Organization
165. Southern Tang campaign against Chu
166. Southern Tang conquest of Min
167. Soviet Armed Forces
168. Soviet Baltic Sea campaign in 1945
169. Soviet Union in World War II
170. Spain during World War I
171. Spanish Armed Forces
172. Spanish colonization of the Americas
173. Spanish occupation of Tangier (1940–1945)
174. Special international tribunal for the crime of aggression (Russian invasion of Ukraine)
175. Spelling alphabet
176. Stratagem of Peshawar
177. Submarine (Clancy book)
178. Sudetendeutsches Freikorps
179. Sutton Hoo helmet
180. Syrian Arab Armed Forces
181. Syrian Hezbollah
182. Syrian civil war
183. São Paulo Revolt of 1924 in the interior
184. São Paulo Revolt of 1924
185. Sébastien Le Prestre, Marquis of Vauban
186. T92 light tank
187. Tachibana Dōsetsu
188. Tachibana Muneshige
189. Takeda Shingen
190. Talaat Pasha
191. Tambov Rebellion
192. Tanker war
193. Teragaki Izō
194. Territory of the Islamic State
195. Terrorism in Lebanon
196. Third Battle of Panipat
197. Timeline of the Croat–Bosniak War
198. Tirailleurs indochinois
199. Tokugawa Ieyasu
200. Torsion mangonel myth
201. Toyotomi Hideyoshi
202. Transition from Ming to Qing
203. Trial by combat
204. Tripartite Struggle
205. Trần dynasty military tactics and organization
206. Turkish invasion of Cyprus
207. Turkmen Ground Forces
208. Tōdō Takatora
209. Ubayd Allah ibn Ziyad
210. Uesugi Kenshin
211. Ukrainian Insurgent Army
212. Ukrainian People's Revolutionary Army
213. Umar ibn Ubayd Allah ibn Ma'mar
214. United Armed Forces of the Commonwealth of Independent States
215. United Nations Assistance Mission for Rwanda
216. United Provinces of the Río de la Plata
217. United States in World War I
218. United States news media and the Vietnam War
219. United States war crimes
220. Uprising in Serbia (1941)
221. Uralvagonzavod
222. Uroš Tešanović
223. Urus Khan
224. Ustaše Youth
225. Uzdol massacre
226. Valencian Canton
227. Valery Sablin
228. Vasić M12
229. Veselin Misita
230. Viking Age in Estonia
231. Vuk Mandušić
232. Waldemar Erfurth
233. War of succession
234. War of the Galician Succession (1205–1245)
235. Warriors of Christ the King
236. Wartime sexual violence
237. Weather events during wars
238. Wehib Pasha
239. Wehrmachthelferin
240. Wei Yan
241. Western Fleet (India)
242. Western Sahara War
243. William de Ros, 6th Baron Ros
244. Władysław III of Poland
245. Yazid I
246. Élysée Accords

If you could add the full references to those article/fix the problem references, that would be great. Again, the easiest way to deal with those is to install Svick's script per these instructions. If after installing the script, you do not see an error, that means it was either taken care of, or was a false positive, and you don't need to do anything else. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:47, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated list, 595 articles remain. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:52, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated list, 554 articles remain. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:34, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated list, 489 articles remain. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated list, 385 articles remain. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated list, 337 articles remain. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Updated list, 307 articles remain. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:42, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

FWIW my experience with these has been that they tend to be the following issues with the following solutions:

• Sfn was copypasted from somewhere else, has no original cite. Solution: replace with either a new reference or {{cn}} tags.
• Sfn has a typo in the name and doesn't match the cite. Solution: Fix the typo.
• Sfn has an incorrect year and doesn't match the cite. Solution: Fix the typo if it's an error, add a new reference or {{cn}} tags if the Sfn is to a work missing an original cite. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 05:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

In my experience, about 20-25% of the time, the short footnote is copied from another, related article, without the full citation being brought over. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge Chinese destroyer Shenzhen (167) and Type 051B destroyer

Shenzhen(167) is the only member of the type 051B class, and other single-ship classes(e.g. Soviet destroyer Opytny and USS Enterprise (CVN-65)) only have one article for the ship class and the ship itself. Can someone please merge these two articles together?(i'm not the most familiar with merge protocol even though i have been here for some time already) Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Siege of Groningen 1672

The article has been expanded and in my opinion it's not a stub anymore VidarVN (talk) 10:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi VidarVN. Neat! I suggest that you submit it here for a reassessment. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Lists of lists

How should we classify lists of lists, such as Lists of massacres in Palestine or List of equipment of the United States Marine Corps. I had previously thought these were closest to Wikipedia:Set index articles, however, after reading that page I am left more confused about what SIAs but it seems not to cover this. It seems a bit strange to classify lists of lists alongside regular lists when they won't (and probably shouldn't) expand beyond basic bullet points and won't ever meet b-class criteria? - Dumelow (talk) 12:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Do we even need a list of lists for military equipment? It could easily be moved into the appropriate template or into the see also section of the individual lists. Gavbadger (talk) 13:03, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Third Anglo-Afghan War - RfC

Requesting uninvolved opinions for the discussion at Talk:Third_Anglo-Afghan_War#Changing_the_results. It concerns the result parameter of this article. - Ratnahastin (talk) 18:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

A couple of experienced editors might resolve this otherwise it will probably go to an RfC. Be warned, it is a wall of text but the issues aren't all that hard to pick out. Cinderella157 (talk) 04:55, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

• Please see Talk:Third_Anglo-Afghan_War#RfC on result in the infobox. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Let's see how many more harmless eloctrons we can murder trying to resolve this. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:38, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Scope of wikiproject military history

May I ask for topics like coast guards and gendarmerie(e.g. stuff like coast guard ships, people's armed police/russian national guard units) are they primarily under the scope of Wikiproject law enforcement or wikiproject military history? On the talk page wikiproject banner I usually put in both but if I have queries/need help on one of these topics do I find help on wikiproject law enforcement, wikiproject military history or a completely different wikiproject(e.g. wikiproject ships, wikiproject china/russia etc) Thehistorianisaac (talk) 03:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Query re: Royal Navy sailor

Hello. I had a query that I thought someone on this taskforce might be able to answer. I have taken this picture of the tomb of A. Smith, while died in March 1918, and was stationed on HMS President. I was wondering if anyone had a means of ascertaining whether this relates to HMS President (1918) or HMS President (shore establishment). McPhail (talk) 16:30, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi, the ship didn't become HMS President until 1922, so will be the shore establishment. Gavbadger (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

I think President was used as a catchall for men between assignments so he might not have actually served at that particular location. If you were interested in finding more you can download Alexander Smith's service record from the National Archives for £3.50 - Dumelow (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

If you create an account, you can download the service record for free. It says he was at President from 27 April 1916. I can't read the handwriting in the document too well. Gavbadger (talk) 14:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Plausibly a victim of the first wave of the Spanish flu pandemic; young men sleeping in confined spaces were particularly vulnerable. Alansplodge (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

WPMH articles which don't have short descriptions

Hi everyone. I have noticed an issue similar to the one pointed out by Headbomb re: WPMH articles which have Harv/Sfn errors. I wanted to help out with WP:WPSHORTDESC and added short descriptions to 16 WPMH articles in no time. I thought there could be a search query to automate the identification of WPMH articles which do not have short descriptions. The search query is "-hastemplate" "deepcat:battles", and the link for running this query is [1]. This query returns ~3,300 results. Of these, about 5-8% might be false positives, but there are still 3,000 articles which need short descriptions. I think we might be able to help out here significantly, since adding short descriptions is much easier than locating missing sources which cause Harv/Sfn errors.

The SHORTDESC WikiProject says there are around 781,429 articles without short descriptions. There might be more WPMH articles in this total, since I've only searched for articles which have the Battles category, but there are surely many from other categories like MILHIST biographies, weaponry etc. I think we could help reduce 4 - 10% of this absurdly large number, which would be very helpful for the project. I'm also thinking of launching an effort for WPMH articles which are orphans (those which don't have links from any other articles). Please let me know if anyone could help come up with a search query for this effort, or for finding all WPMH articles without short descriptions. Matarisvan (talk) 17:32, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi, for the Military History WikiProject, (clean up list here) and (Orphaned list here) Gavbadger (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't see how it would be helpful for the project. It seems like a waste of time. They could be automatically added from Wikidata. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:31, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

@Hawkeye7, Wikidata usually has inadequate short descriptions, and therefore they have to be refined anyways, which defeats the purpose of automating the process. Also, I don't know if this will be true for everyone, but it has helped me discover many new WPMH articles I could contribute to. Matarisvan (talk) 14:53, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

What's the point of short descriptions? They are invisible except in the edit space, which seems pointless to me. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 10:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

In the mobile phone version of Wikipedia, you have related topics for each article at the bottom of the page. It shows the infobox picture, name of the article and the short description. Also in the mobile version it shows the same information when you use the search function. Gavbadger (talk) 14:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Aah, thanks. Keith-264 (talk) 15:10, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Infobox concern

Hi, I'm kinda new here in Wikipedia and I've been exploring a bit relating to World War II articles. But I have a little concern. The redirecting link which is Fascist Italy was used in infoboxes in World War II battles where Italy is involved in instead using the Kingdom of Italy which was the official Italian state despite under Fascist rule, which Fascist Italy was only used as a common term to describe the Kingdom of Italy under Fascist regime. While other infoboxes, like the Kingdom of Romania used this as a redirecting link instead of the Kingdom of Romania under Fascism during its period which you can see it's quite odd. Thank you for anyone who can respond this. TheManwhoNeverWasEverBefore (talk) 21:18, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

US Army Code of Conduct

The Battle of Bamber Bridge article refers to the "US Army Code of Conduct", which is a redlink. However, this cannot be the Code of the United States Fighting Force, which came much later; could it be the Uniform Code of Military Justice? Or something else, like specific uniform regulations? — The Anome (talk) 11:06, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I am no expert but as far as I can see the wearing of uniform by US forces in the Second World War was enforced under section 125 of the National Defense Act of 1920. This is referred to in the Army Regulations 600-40 booklet issued to troops periodically throughout the war to specify what should be worn and when (you can see a 1941 example here, page 13 includes the reference to enforcement under the NDA by fine or imprisonment). You can read the relevant part of the NDA including later amendments in this 1942 book - Dumelow (talk) 12:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)